----BEGIN CLASS---- [13:30] #startclass [13:30] Roll call [13:30] Prashant Sharma [13:30] Pavitra [13:30] vibhor [13:30] Ritik Raushan [13:30] <_honey_> honey bhardwaj [13:30] sparsh [13:30] Aniruddha Basak [13:30] Kanay bhandari [13:30] Sk Sahidullah [13:30] Kumar Vipin Yadav [13:30] Philemon Johnson [13:30] Ankur [13:30] Irfan Sheikh [13:30] saurav [13:30] Jagannathan Tiruvallur Eachambadi [13:30] Poonam Chauhan [13:30] Ratan Kulshreshtha [13:31] Nilesh Patra [13:31] Manu Shaurya [13:31] Rayan Das [13:31] Abhishek Kumar [13:31] Kurian Benoy [13:31] C Dharmateja [13:31] Md salman ansari [13:31] Okay. [13:32] I have asked you all to go through our documentation on the Tor Project. [13:32] Any questions on that? [13:33] <_honey_> ! [13:33] next [13:34] ! [13:34] <_honey_> i did all the steps and when started browsing on tor its giving me an error stating proxy refuses connections [13:34] ! [13:35] <_honey_> how do i correct it ? [13:36] _honey_, can you show us a screenshot? [13:36] next [13:36] How is using tor browser different from VPN? As both of the choices hepls us in accessing most of the websites anonymously [13:37] snowmanstark, good question. [13:37] In case of VPN, the VPN providers know everything about you. [13:38] Darshna das [13:38] Also, we use any normal browser over VPN, but, the Tor Browser has many extra patches which makes it more secure, saying against tracking. [13:38] snowmanstark, If VPN is not about anonymous at ll. [13:38] oops [13:38] snowmanstark, VPN is not about anonymous at all. [13:39] It is just about using an end-point to access network. [13:39] Roll Call : Kumar Prateek [13:39] Or sometimes to access certain services, say services within a company. [13:39] next [13:39] ! [13:39] I had read on the tor doc that tor protects your identity on the internet. If however a service requires user's gmail login, and the user logs in, isn't the identity here, revealed, then. It would break privacy, right? [13:39] ! [13:40] <_honey_> kushal:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-LJAxo9TVig/hqdefault.jpg [13:40] ! [13:41] ! [13:41] On my Chromium browser videos load fast, so the internet is not that slow, but using tor to watch video takes forever. What can we do about general internet speed on TOR [13:41] ? [13:41] oops [13:41] sorry [13:41] gargantua_kerr[m, yes, Tor Browser only provides few certain things, but, say if you download a file and open in your computer, or say give your home address, or username and password, then the services can identify you easily. [13:42] Who all went through the nice graphics from EFF mentioned in our documentation (about Tor) ? [13:43] ! [13:43] kushal, do you mean the overview page ? [13:43] snbk97, No [13:43] _honey_, Is this your Tor Browser? [13:44] <_honey_> no but error is same as this kushal [13:44] <_honey_> you asked for error right [13:44] ! [13:45] _honey_, Our documentation is about using Tor Browser. [13:45] I don't think we suggest to use another browser in the Tor chapter. [13:45] next [13:45] On my Chromium browser videos load fast, so the internet is not that slow, but using tor to watch video takes forever. What can we do about general internet speed on TOR? [13:46] In the same sentence, you wrote two different spellings of Tor. [13:46] Anyway. [13:46] ! [13:47] <_honey_> i will ask after class then kushal because i am not able to use it after installing [13:47] If you try to change to a different Tor circuit, maybe the speed will increase. But, remember that it is going through 3 hops and mostly across the whole globe, means it will be slower than your normal browser. [13:47] s/browser/network. [13:47] _honey_ I also had the same issue , just search for it on internet to make changes in configuration files [13:48] _honey_, This is exactly why you are supposed to come to IRC regularly. [13:48] Not just for the session time. [13:48] But, I think some people will never learn. [13:48] It also shows that none of you read our documentation. [13:48] As I asked who all read/saw the EFF link in our documentation. [13:49] The answer is: no one [13:50] next [13:50] <_honey_> ! [13:50] in your blog site you have address ending with "onion" what is this [13:51] sap143, did you search the same question on a search engine? [13:51] no [13:51] I think the answer is: No again. [13:51] next [13:52] If I use tor and VPN? Will it be redundant [13:52] snowmanstark, you can always do that. Use vpn, and connect over on top of it. [13:53] A proper VPN will help you against the local deep packet inspection, and then Tor Browser will help you against random sites/links/companies. [13:53] next [13:53] A few years back a person (unfortunately) did some criminal activity using tor, but the government still ended up detecting their IP and identity. So how safe is it? Also is protonmail considered safe? [13:55] ayushjayaswal, If you do illegal things and also be stupid at the same time using any technology, you will get caught by the law enforcement agencies anyway. [13:55] I don't use Protonmail personally, so I can not talk about them. [13:55] next [13:55] My question has been answered. [13:55] next [13:56] ratanshreshtha[m, it is really irritating to open a link to read any message. [13:56] Is the list already present in the tor browser ? [13:57] ratanshreshtha[m, good question. [13:57] ratanshreshtha[m, search about Tor Directory authorities [13:58] ratanshreshtha[m, if you can search well, you will find the right source code for the same :) [13:58] kushal okay [13:58] next [13:58] Can Tor complete disable user fingerprinting ? I know canvas fingerprinting, few browsers are trying to do that. I came across few things like mouse scroll fingerprinting and deep cookies, can tor help with that? [13:59] snbk97, it can help better than any other browser. [13:59] snbk97, have a look at https://panopticlick.eff.org/ [13:59] next [13:59] <_honey_> i have gone through the documentation but not able to understand which EFF link you are telling? [14:00] Good, I will tell you in few minutes. [14:00] https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https [14:00] have a look at that link after the session. [14:01] For all the people who never asked any questions, should I assume that you can now use Tor Browser efficiently in your computer? [14:01] Or should we assume that you did not bother to try? [14:02] <_honey_> this link wasn't there in doc :( [14:02] _honey_, really? [14:02] <_honey_> yeah [14:02] ! [14:02] _honey_, https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/beforestart.html#download-tor-browser [14:02] kushal : oh i had gone through it few months ago while i was reading 2018 logs [14:02] next time you are so sure about the world, please double check. [14:03] <_honey_> https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tor.html this is what was given i guess [14:03] _honey_, you were given documentation [14:03] I never said only in that link. [14:03] _honey_, trying to act smart is very nice, unless you get caught. [14:03] next [14:03] if i use tor browser and one other Browser also then the traffic of that browser will also be routed over the tor browser network? [14:04] SSahid, generally no. [14:04] <_honey_> am not trying to do that :( [14:04] why? [14:04] SSahid, you can use the SOCKS proxy from the Tor Browser in the other browser, but, I would recommend use the browsers properly. [14:04] Search about Tor SOCKS proxy. [14:05] ! [14:05] kushal , ok will go through it [14:05] next [14:06] ! [14:06] next [14:07] tor browser suggests not to use it in fullscreen, can it expose anything other than my screen resolution? [14:07] From the documentation I got that each node in the network have information about the node from where it gets the information and the node to which it has to transfer it, so isn't there any possiblity of backtracking(tracking back to the node from where the data is transferred) by the source node? [14:07] cryptimus, no, but, that is for a very special case where someone will go through so much to identify you. [14:07] knownymous_, what is source node? [14:08] There are guard/entry, middle, and exit node/relay. [14:08] kushal: oh sorry I mean the entry node [14:09] The answer is no, the entry node does not know about the final destination. [14:10] kanownymous_ : I thought of it as a linked list with only forward addresses ,so there is no way to go back [14:10] knownymous_, we will take time to explain that, also maybe IRC is not the best place. [14:10] I will point you to the right resources later on. [14:11] kushal: Ok thanks [14:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsWe1pI7kas this is for tonight. [14:11] next [14:11] Roll call [14:11] Kumar Vipin Yadav [14:11] Ritwiz Sinha [14:11] Aniruddha Basak [14:11] Shivam Singhal [14:11] Ritik Raushan [14:11] kumar Prateek [14:11] saurav [14:12] Jagannathan Tiruvallur Eachambadi [14:12] Ankur [14:12] Ratan Kulshreshtha [14:12] Kanay bhandari [14:12] Md salman ansari [14:12] Poonam Chauhan [14:12] <_honey_> honey bhardwaj [14:12] sparsh [14:12] Pallav Bhalla [14:12] Nilesh Patra [14:12] Irfan Sheikh [14:12] Prashant Sharma ----END CLASS----