----BEGIN CLASS---- [13:30] #startclass [13:30] Roll Call [13:31] Shiva Saxena [13:31] Mayank Singhal [13:31] Sehenaz Parvin [13:31] sahil [13:31] Ashish Kumar Mishra [13:31] Gajendra Saraswat [13:31] Rajat Gupta [13:31] Manank Patni [13:31] Rakshit Airani [13:31] kumar vipin yadav [13:31] Priyanka Sharma [13:31] Vivek Shukla [13:31] Shreyas Patankar [13:31] Manjeet Mehta [13:31] Jagannathan Tiruvallur Eachambadi [13:31] sourabh deshmukh [13:31] Jaydeep Borkar [13:31] Siddhant N Trivedi [13:31] Vishal Kushwaha [13:31] Jason Braganza [13:31] Janifa M [13:31] Priyanka Saggu [13:31] Aditya Patil [13:31] Sourabh Pruthi [13:31] pawan [13:31] Rohan Hazra [13:31] Abhishek Kedia [13:32] Shaikh farhan [13:32] alright [13:32] Prashant Sharma [13:32] so how many of you haven’t put their names in the list kushal provided [13:32] the names of their blogs? [13:32] say me [13:32] me [13:32] me [13:32] me [13:32] me [13:32] me [13:32] not me [13:32] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] Me [13:33] jasonbraganza, me. couldn't find the link. [13:33] *not me [13:33] alright. and how many of you haven’t gotten themselves blogs yet? say me [13:33] Roll call Devesh Verma [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] Me [13:34] me [13:34] alright [13:34] Roll call Olajayi [13:34] me [13:34] all of you read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html? [13:34] if you haven’t say me [13:35] Rollcall Dinesh [13:35] me [13:35] sorry i have [13:35] :) [13:35] me [13:35] ok [13:36] so here’s the link [13:36] https://pad.riseup.net/p/dgplug18 [13:36] me [13:36] rollcall Naman Sharma [13:36] Roll call: Shubham Sharma [13:36] to the the folks who haven’t added your rss feeds there, add them now [13:37] roll call:sulakhe pooja [13:37] also who had trouble finding the rss feed link on their blog? [13:37] let me know please [13:37] ! [13:37] roll call:aryan tripathi [13:38] jasonbraganza we have to make our account on wordpress.com, right? [13:38] Actually blog^ [13:39] to the folks who haven’t gotten themselves blogs, sign up for an acount at wrodpress.com and create a blog there tonight? [13:39] Has the session started? [13:39] *wordpress.com [13:39] dunken yes [13:39] Yes [13:40] It is asking to make a website, is that it? jasonbraganza [13:40] yes [13:40] Okay [13:40] qwertyuiop [13:41] so sehenaz_ add your feed to the link? [13:41] why do we need to create a website? [13:41] jasonbraganza, doing it but network is very slow now. [13:42] jasonbraganza, when did kushal provide that link ? [13:43] kvy: link has been shared several times [13:43] Abhi: read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html? [13:43] man-jain, i mean in which session ? [13:43] Day after yesterday's [13:44] kvy, last class took by kushal [13:44] Also Amritraj? Sehenaz, Prajit, Avik, Manank, Priyanka Sharma, Pawan, Sahil, Ratan, Bhavesh, Neeraj [13:44] Shaikh_: yes [13:44] ! [13:44] all you folks have the wrong link pasted in [13:44] Can you fix? [13:44] man-jain, Shaikh_, meanjeet ok [13:44] yes sure [13:45] if you need help, ask me [13:45] jasonbraganza: yes i can can you please tell what is wrong [13:45] actually i am not getting the rss link can you help jasonbraganza ? [13:46] ! [13:46] roll call:pooja kumari singh [13:46] sjha2048: link to your blog please? [13:46] sjha2048, https://pad.riseup.net/p/dgplug18 [13:46] jasonbraganza, i am also not getting the link. Please help. [13:46] if you have a wordpress blog, the rss is as simple as https://somthing.wordpress.com/feed/ [13:47] jasonbraganza: okay thanks [13:47] What's today's class about? [13:47] I have corrected it [13:47] next [13:47] next [13:47] next [13:47] next [13:48] ! [13:48] next [13:48] jasonbraganza, got my answer [13:48] next [13:49] Am i suppose to pay them for a good domain name ? They have by default provided me a random site address but it's not looking well , while others are paid [13:49] jasonbraganza I think .clearqueue clears the queue [13:49] ones [13:49] vshuklajr, right now, stick to the free stuff [13:49] jasonbraganza: okay [13:50] vshuklajr, you can always edit your name to something you like. [13:50] next [13:50] What's today's class about? [13:50] Roll call:Soniya Vyas [13:50] Writing. your doubts about writing. and the importance of writing [13:50] next [13:51] sehenaz_ added yourself? [13:51] who else is there? [13:51] Roll call umesh sharnagat [13:52] Abhi: did you read the post I linked. It was a hometask [13:52] ! [13:52] RatanShreshtha, i think github will have some feed for your blog [13:52] put that in [13:52] next [13:52] Why you said to start one in wordpress and not in medium,github or any other? [13:53] jasonbraganza, added. [13:53] Sorry to interrupt, but my internet got disconnected i was unable to get my answer can i get that again? [13:53] ! [13:53] jasonbraganza added! [13:53] bismi,Kushal already answered that question, I guess [13:54] Abhi_: 15:51 <@jasonbraganza> Writing. your doubts about writing. and the importance of writing [13:54] bismi wordpress is simplest. also it’s easy to move data in and out of wrodpress. the others not so much. Besides Auttomatic ( the company behind Wordpress) has a stron open source background [13:54] Rollcall: Prabhu Sharan Singh [13:55] neext [13:55] jasonbraganza okay [13:55] next [13:55] jasonbraganza, the oxford styleguide seems great! It answers all my basic questions. But it's quite large. How do you suggest to incorporate more of the style guide's elements in our writing? [13:56] storymode7,like this :P - https://janusworx.com/categories/daily-programming.html [13:56] storymode7, write daily. practice. [13:56] storymode7, you’ll see most of the posts are one liners and crappy [13:57] jasonbraganza, oh thanks! I'll try to write daily :) [13:57] storymode7, but out of all that https://janusworx.com/categories/loc.html emrges [13:58] storymode7, some of my best posts have come because something struck me and I wanted to tell the world about it. But I cannot tell the world my story, if I don’t know how to [13:58] for that you need to work on your chops daily! [13:58] next [13:59] We are prgrammers, and coders and software developers and students [13:59] jasonbraganza, that helps. Thanks :) [13:59] and we all want to grow big and do newer and bigger things [13:59] but lets say you do [13:59] what then? [14:00] do you really think the world will beat a path to your door? [14:00] a thousand and one github stars over night? [14:00] no! [14:00] Roll call : Manas kashyap [14:00] you need to learn to tell your story [14:00] about what your learning [14:00] what your doing [14:00] what you’re making [14:01] and people who are interested will slowly come and follow you [14:01] and you build that up over time [14:01] ! [14:02] and then whe you have something big to ship, you will already have your evangelists! [14:02] and to tell your story, you need to write :) [14:02] next [14:03] while I wait for ananyo, let me continue [14:03] What do we do after we have have written our blog to let the world know about it? Do we just leave it to search engines to index our blog in their search results? [14:03] here’s a link to Kevin Kelly’s seminal post http://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/ [14:03] ananyo, for now yes [14:03] Or do we share it in some popular platforms ? [14:04] ananyo, read the link at the end of the blogging post [14:04] ananyo this one - https://janusworx.com/seth-akimbo-blogging.html. That should address your question quite well [14:05] jasonbraganza, Thank you. Will read it [14:05] so like Kevin says all you need to make a living, a good day to day lliving, is to have a thousand true fans. That’s all it takes [14:05] but to build up to that you need time [14:06] so the earlier you start, the better [14:06] you make your mistakes early. you can change quickly, and you grow [14:06] and once you can write well, you use that skill to make your portfolio shine! [14:07] do you think django would be as popular as it is if it weren’t for it’s awesome documentation? [14:07] i doubt it [14:08] they had help and newspaper roots, so that gave them a BIG leg up in their early days [14:08] Ramit Sethi, shows a simple tactic called the Briefcase Technique to ace any interview [14:08] https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/the-briefcase-technique/ [14:09] You “show” what you’ve done. and what you can do, specifically for the client/interviewer [14:09] you can’t do that if you can’t write about it! [14:10] So write ::) write as often as you can. [14:10] about whatever strikes your fancy [14:10] you will soon find out what you like writing baout [14:10] and you’ll find your niche [14:10] but in the meanwhile, you are also improving your language skills [14:11] and more importantly, your ability to reason. to see many sides of the same issue [14:11] how many here have heard of the Feynman technique? [14:12] well if you haven’t say me :P [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] not me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] me [14:12] * me [14:12] not me [14:12] i just duck duck go it [14:13] me [14:13] Not me [14:13] not me [14:13] I now know it. Didn't knew about it 2 mins back. [14:13] alright here’s a link https://www.scotthyoung.com/learnonsteroids/grab/TranscriptFeynman.pdf [14:13] jasonbraganza, read about it long time back, if i remember it correctly it has to do with explaining what you know to other in a simpple way [14:13] will have to read up about it again [14:13] you learn something and then you explain that to somebody in your own words [14:14] That is one of the fastest ways to learn [14:14] and you can do that so easily by writing a post! [14:14] ! [14:14] by the way, please keep asking questions :) [14:14] next [14:15] ! [14:15] I’m talking while you formulate your thougts :) [14:15] Briefcase Technique sounds good for freelancer . Any suggestion for college students who've to face interview ? [14:16] vshuklajr, mayvbe ask the others later :) i was just using that as an example :) [14:16] next [14:16] What if we make a really bad mistake in explaining the concepts we understood in the blog. This may even lead to a bad impression. May lead to negative comments. [14:16] jeet__, so what? [14:16] So that might leave a negative impression on the blog [14:17] jeet__, that is what feedback does [14:17] jeet__ you learn faster :) [14:17] jeet__ you factcheck better :) [14:17] jeet__ don’t worry about what people may think [14:17] jeet__ if something is wrong we correct it. [14:17] [14:18] Yes. True that! Atleast it would be better to make mistake on an editable blog post that to the my Hiring manager. :) [14:18] Got it jasonbraganza [14:18] THAT is what rthe comments are for and pleasant conversation [14:18] jeet__ if someopne just voices an opinion that is contrary to what you said, well you can reason and see if you agree or not. either way is ok :) [14:19] next [14:19] True. Thanks jasonbraganza :) [14:19] anyone has any questions about the blogging post itself? [14:20] anyone has any questions about writing? :) [14:20] ! [14:20] ! [14:20] ! [14:20] ! [14:20] avik around? [14:20] next [14:21] what do you think is better: starting a blog with a hyper focused theme or a general blog? [14:21] vishalIRC, depends [14:21] vishalIRC, can you write well? do you have a deep knowledge of your niche? [14:21] ! [14:21] yes [14:22] vishalIRC, if either is true go right ahead. The general satuff is supposed to get you started. If you’re already on a higher plane, go fly :) [14:22] jasonbraganze, I'm writing about a project that i'm working on. I think there's a lack of content about it. [14:22] vishalIRC, sounds awesome :) do it! [14:22] next [14:22] s jasonbraganze \jasonbraganza [14:23] Do you use a thesaurus or edit your posts extensively? [14:23] jasonbraganza, o/ how can I help? [14:23] also folks please ignore the tremendous typos I make! I have damaged nerves [14:23] ! [14:24] avik, please fix your feed in the link that kushal gave? [14:24] jasonbraganza, what is wrong? [14:24] oh yes [14:24] i think i know! its the whome page! [14:25] j605, i use what Taleb calls tinkering :) I write a post and then keep polishing it. I rarely use a thesaurus, but that’s because reading extensively *is* my thesaurus :) [14:25] avik :) [14:25] next [14:25] vishalIRC, don't block yourself with a too strict set of contents, write about what you want. You can continue projects at any time. [14:25] How to write an effective "About" section ? [14:26] jasonbraganza, you sure type fast for person with nerve damage :D [14:26] pr97, imagine, what do you want to read about when you see other peoples blogs? write that for yourself :) and keep revising it :) [14:26] next [14:26] Is it required to give the references always? [14:27] annn CONFUSEd. GIVE ME A FOR EXAMPLE? [14:27] okay thanks jasonbraganza [14:27] annn and sorry about the yelling :) [14:27] next [14:27] What if we couldn't be consistent in writing. Wouldn't it give a bad impression of us to others. Also how to be consistent. [14:28] Like I watched a YouTube video and want to convey the same thing in words. Do I need to provide the YouTube link as reference? Just an eg. [14:28] man-jain, consistent in quantity? or quality? [14:28] Consistent in quantity [14:28] annn, yes always. if you have been inspired by someone or you are using someones stuff, credit them [14:28] Like in doing all the other things you just leave it. [14:28] annn, yes, always give the reference, we should always give credits to people, sites from where we learn. [14:29] Then I fear that it feels like copying :P [14:29] man-jain, saw my porgramming posts series? :P [14:29] man-jain here https://janusworx.com/categories/daily-programming.html [14:29] annn, as long as you don't copy paste whole article as it is, it's not copy [14:29] I saved it i would be reading it later [14:29] Ok jasonbraganza bhavin192 Thanks. [14:29] man-jain and my daily writing here https://mjbraganza.com/tag/daily-writing/ [14:30] annn: not providing references is copying commonly know as plagiarism [14:30] Okay i will read them surely [14:30] man-jain, do the lowest possible thing you can do :) develop the habit first :) just write meh if you want, but write :) [14:30] Roll Call: Bhavesh Gupta [14:30] next [14:30] what do you think is better: sheer capability or ability to market oneself? [14:31] vishalIRC, both :) [14:31] Okay Thanks :) jasonbraganza [14:31] vishalIRC, edison is more popular than Tesla, because? Marketing :) [14:31] jasonbraganza, ok, that makes sense :) [14:31] next [14:31] aww come on people :) [14:32] jasonbraganza, sorry to interrupt, but I think I did it correct this time! please check when you are free! [14:32] ! [14:32] avik, checking [14:32] avik, sure [14:32] ! [14:32] thank you BhaveshSGupta[m] [14:32] thanks! [14:32] soerry i meant bhavin192 :) [14:32] next [14:33] avik, it's correct. [14:33] Can my blogs be too short? Like two or three lines, because I need to make it a habit daily and make time for it. [14:33] session started guys ? [14:33] And writing a long one takes so much tine for me. [14:33] annn, many of mine are one liners :) [14:33] shadowroot: yes [14:33] next [14:34] How to find topics to write about. I wrote something last week but have no idea about my next post [14:34] s/tine/time [14:34] j605, i can tell you about what I do [14:34] ! [14:34] shadowroot: stop doing this. You gatecrashed the class last time as well. Please observe what is going on before talking [14:34] 1. i read so there is always something I want to blab about [14:35] annn, throw in some good shots if you are into photography, and wala, a good post is made, even with a few lines! [14:35] j605 2. I keep an open mind during my bath, I get the most amazing ideas then [14:35] avik, nice thanks:) [14:36] j605 3. I try to synthesize to common or disparate points across media. something I read reminds me of something I saw or learnt [14:36] j605 if all else fails, I try to pair one of my photos with a quote :P [14:36] j605, does that help? [14:36] annn, most web content has sharing policies. I hope we will have a session on license models again this year. When using the work of others, always make sure to respect that. To copy without giving credit is not just bad style but can be against the law [14:36] jasonbraganza: yes, thanks [14:37] j605 aah in my more productive moments, I make a list of things to write about and then slowly tackle them one at a time later [14:37] schubisu, ok. I will take care. [14:37] ! [14:37] j605, i also batch posts if I’m in a good state. highest I’ve ever written in 3 in one go :) [14:37] next [14:38] jasonbraganza: thanks a lot :) [14:38] ! [14:38] Can my blogs contain random topics? Or should it be consistent like related to one stuff. [14:38] annn, start with whatver you want. the consistent stuff will come with time :) [14:38] next [14:38] jasonbraganza, what is the decent frequency of producing blogs per 15 days? [14:39] jaydeep, my current decent frequency is two posts daily :P [14:39] jaydeep, but twice a week or once a week is better. not fortnightly. the more the better when you are starting [14:39] next [14:40] sir i will write my first blog today can i share the like of it in our chat tommorrow for the feedback? [14:40] shaikh_farhan, no sir please! [14:40] shaikh_farhan, you added the feed link to the post? (and no sirs :) [14:40] no [14:41] jasonbraganza, Okay :P, Thanks :) [14:41] shaikh_farhan, sure you can. soon once kushal sets up our student planet, we can get to see what every one writes :) [14:41] j605, you already seem to have a quite profound knowledge about several things I would love to read more about :) One thing you can always do is summarizing news that you found interesting and add your opinion? [14:41] next [14:41] j605 what schubisu said :) you’re knowledgeable and you’re opinionated. you ought to write :) [14:42] j605, I feel same about you! [14:42] ! [14:42] next [14:42] Many times when I read some how-to on a topic, and I blog about it, my post is structured quite similarly to the original post. Is this a bad practice? [14:43] storymode7, that’s because the original page is open :) close that page. or if you need it for reference what I do is move to another machine or use pen and paper and write as much as i can without referring back [14:44] storymode7, also basiic structure being the same is quite ok. but the voice and the words should be your own [14:45] jasonbraganza, that's satisfying :) Thanks! [14:45] storymode7, also maybe ask yourself why you blog about that article. You can make it more understandable, or add your opinion or just want to support and spread it. Your post should add something that hasn't been there before. [14:46] how many of you have started writing? [14:46] me [14:46] me [14:46] me [14:46] schubisu, will try to follow that, thanks :) [14:46] me [14:46] me [14:46] me [14:47] me [14:47] me [14:47] me [14:47] me [14:47] me [14:47] me [14:47] me [14:48] oh wonderful. until the student planet is up, you could share your posts here and I promise to read them all. bhavin192 is witness, that I probably readd all of last years posts :) [14:48] aslo schubisu :) [14:48] the one thing you should not do like me, is the typos :P [14:48] planning to write my first blog after long time this weekend. Will definitely keep in mind the points learnt from this session [14:49] any more questions? [14:49] let’s call it a night then :) [14:49] Roll Call [14:49] Shiva Saxena [14:49] Also people who are reading this log later, please update your blog's details here https://pad.riseup.net/p/dgplug18 [14:49] Rohan Hazra [14:49] Amitrajit Bose [14:49] Robin Schubert [14:49] sehenaz parvin [14:49] Naman Sharma [14:49] Avik Mukherjee [14:49] jasonbraganza: i'll post links to my movie reviewa :p [14:49] Priyanka Sharma [14:49] Devesh Verma [14:49] Rakshit Airani [14:49] Janifa M [14:49] Bhavin Gandhi [14:49] Ananyo Maiti [14:49] Priyanka Saggu [14:50] Manjeet Mehta [14:50] Prashant Sharma [14:50] Rajat Gupta [14:50] Jason Braganza [14:50] kumar vipin yadav [14:50] Vivek Shukla [14:50] Jaydeep Borkar [14:50] Olajayi [14:50] Jagannathan Tiruvallur Eachambadi [14:50] shaikh farhan [14:50] Ashish Kumar Mishra [14:50] Shamik Nandi [14:50] Shubham Sharma [14:50] jasonbraganza, I've a question [14:50] Vishal Kushwaha [14:50] Mayank Singhal [14:50] Prabhu Sharan Singh [14:50] Gajendra Saraswat [14:51] Umesh sharnagat [14:51] Nupur kapur [14:51] got disconnected [14:51] sorry :) [14:51] Manank Patni [14:51] Do you thing that the WordPress advertisement bar on top, for free account users affect the readers? jasonbraganza ----END CLASS----