----BEGIN CLASS---- [13:28] #startclass [13:28] Hey Everyone [13:28] --Session begins-- [13:28] Roll Call [13:29] Akshay Shipurkar [13:29] Amit Kokitkar [13:29] Wrik Bhadra [13:29] deep [13:29] Abhinav Shirur [13:29] Aman Pratap Singh [13:29] Priyanka Sharma [13:29] Aditya khowala [13:29] Devesh Verma [13:29] Deepika Upadhyay [13:29] Abhishek Singh [13:29] Anu Kumari Gupta [13:29] Dhairyya Agarwal [13:29] Ranjeet kumar [13:29] Harsh Shah [13:29] atul kumar [13:29] sakshi saraswat [13:29] Akanksha Bhardwaj [13:29] Rishika Goyal [13:29] Amarjeet Singh [13:29] Saikat Dey [13:29] Santosh Kumar Shaw [13:29] Zameer Haque [13:29] Kshithij Iyer [13:29] Devendra Bhat [13:29] Abhishek sharma [13:29] Suraj Ghimire [13:29] Chiranjeev Gupta [13:29] Messi Fc [13:29] Shivani Mehendarge [13:29] Anupama Shipurkar [13:29] Deepak Chethan [13:29] Robin Schubert [13:29] Mayur Khomane [13:29] Zeba Karin [13:29] Yash Tamakuwala [13:29] Saurav Saha [13:29] <_RicharD_> Mayank gupta [13:29] Sharon Christa [13:29] Ravindra Lakal [13:29] Bhavin Gandhi [13:29] Sangram Kakade [13:29] Priyansh sourav [13:29] Ishan Singh [13:29] Balaji [13:29] Nisha Rani [13:29] Shankar Jha [13:29] Onyinye Madubuko [13:29] Mohit [13:30] Prashant K. Sharma [13:30] Gaurav Sitlani [13:30] Sanyam khurana [13:30] Apoorv Goel [13:30] Kushal Das [13:30] Sayan Chowdhury [13:30] I think we can now start. [13:30] Kshitij [13:30] Hrishikesh Barman [13:30] Shashank Shekhar [13:31] Yesterday we asked people to install gtypist and then practice, if you have done so, type yes, or else no. [13:31] Jitesh Pabla [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] <_RicharD_> Yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] no [13:31] Yes [13:31] yes [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] yes [13:31] Yes [13:31] yes [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] Yes [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] Yes [13:31] no [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] yes [13:31] Yes [13:31] Yes [13:31] no [13:31] yes [13:31] Yes [13:31] no [13:31] Yes [13:31] yes [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] no [13:31] yes [13:31] no [13:31] [13:31] Yes [13:32] Akash Kandpal [13:32] yes [13:32] Yes [13:32] yes [13:32] yes [13:32] yes [13:32] 1st day [13:32] Jason Braganza [13:32] People who ever missed it, please install and start practicing from today :) [13:32] yes [13:32] Touch typing will be an important part of your life :) [13:32] no [13:32] Sure Sir [13:33] gtypist [13:33] ! [13:33] Soumam Banerjee [13:33] Okay. I thought it was an app. Later found it to be a commandline thing. [13:33] vishami3, no sir or madam on Internet. [13:33] vishami3, Read the logs from the first two days [13:33] i get problem in my left hand typing "S" always. [13:33] Hi [13:33] yes [13:33] Would you recommend a mechanical keyboard? [13:33] skat_sd_, it is still a command line application. [13:34] im_mohsin: Practice will make things right. :) [13:34] jiteshpabla, please ask these questions after the sessioln. [13:34] ok [13:34] im_mohsin, only practice could help , [13:34] * session [13:34] ok [13:34] Now, we also asked you to read the the document about how to ask questions, do you have any query about it? [13:35] No [13:35] no [13:35] No [13:35] Yes, prashaant practicing it [13:35] No [13:35] You don't have to type no [13:35] No [13:35] no [13:35] Yes [13:35] yes [13:35] Yes [13:35] Sorry, I am a bit late. [13:35] Sorry I'm late! [13:35] Akash pathak [13:35] You are supposed to be type ! if you have query [13:35] Roll call: Niranjana Deshpande [13:35] Sorry for being late [13:35] no [13:36] <_RicharD_> No [13:36] no [13:36] Roll call: Ashwani Kumar Gupta [13:36] no [13:36] no [13:36] Any questions from that document? [13:37] I guess no questions. [13:37] Which is kind of strange. [13:37] No [13:37] Anyway. [13:38] is it that we have to type ! and wait for our turn but how will we know it s our turn?? [13:38] lucifer, batul will call your name [13:38] lucifer: you will see [13:39] lucifer, type ! and then see :) [13:39] lucifer, batul the bot will inform about it [13:39] ! [13:39] next [13:39] next [13:39] lucifer, This way.[ [13:39] ok gotit [13:39] Oops, typo. [13:39] ! [13:40] next [13:40] So what are we learning today? [13:40] [13:40] Zams, we will only know by the end of the day. [13:41] ok [13:41] ! [13:41] next [13:41] why are we typing [13:41] ! [13:41] What we learn depends only on us? The question should be "What would be taught today?" :) [13:41] mesayan, read the logs [13:41] mesayan, read the log from day 1, you will get to know. [13:41] next [13:41] Can we ask any questions, or is there a topic ? [13:41] ! [13:42] dodococo, questions on yesterday's how to ask question document. [13:42] next [13:42] ! [13:42] Will Fedora 24 do? [13:42] ** 210 nicks online ** [13:42] anuGupta, yes [13:43] ! [13:43] anuGupta, for now yes. [13:43] next [13:43] ! [13:43] How to save the logs ? [13:43] ! [13:44] ravindra, visit https://dgplug.org/irclogs/2017/ [13:44] next [13:44] which linux distro best ? I 'm using ubuntu17.04 is it okay for this session ? [13:44] ! [13:44] geekabhi007, Best depends on your personal choice. [13:44] next [13:44] next [13:44] Which is better to use , github desktop app or the terminal based git tool? [13:44] can i use mac os for this? [13:45] ! [13:45] santoshShaw, Not part of of today's session. [13:45] harshcrop, for few things yes, mostly no. [13:45] next [13:45] Hey Sorry I am late [13:45] next [13:45] I am using ubuntu 14.04. Is it okay? [13:45] ! [13:45] Shruti9620, yes its okay [13:45] harshcrop: you can use virtual machine on your mac. [13:45] next [13:46] okay [13:46] can you tell me difference between ubuntu and fedora ? [13:46] ! [13:46] Shruti9620, things you will learn works for most linux distro [13:46] Google It [13:46] Is there any drag and drop IDE for Python 3x? [13:46] geekabhi007, Have you read the how to ask a question in smart way document we gave yesterday? [13:46] geekabhi007: Google IT [13:46] ahole[m], not today's topic. [13:46] when are we going to learn about using encryption? and will all the classes will be in this q/a format? [13:46] sangram_k, Should be "google it" [13:46] Okay [13:47] [13:47] geekodour08, depends. [13:47] next [13:47] sorry i just pasted and my irc client just sent it. [13:47] Who all do not know anything about linux commands (bash commands)? If you are new to Linux, then also you can say yes. [13:47] Yes [13:47] yes [13:47] yes [13:47] yes [13:47] yes [13:47] yes [13:47] Yes [13:47] No [13:48] No [13:48] No [13:48] yes [13:48] no [13:48] No [13:48] No [13:48] No [13:48] stop [13:48] know a little bit [13:48] please [13:48] yes [13:48] no [13:48] yes [13:48] no [13:48] no [13:48] yes [13:48] yes [13:48] yes [13:48] yes [13:48] no [13:48] yes [13:48] yes [13:49] kushal: you may want to type 'STOP' [13:49] no [13:49] no [13:49] Yes [13:49] NO [13:49] Hi, what is todays topic?? [13:50] avik: you are not late :) [13:50] For the people who are completely new to linux or command line, you can start from http://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shell.html [13:50] avik: Use ! first if you want to ask any query [13:50] iKshitij, thanks [13:51] crang-cg, sorry. Forgot! [13:51] hey [13:51] For the experienced folks: you can look into bash scripting from http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/Bash-Beginners-Guide.pdf [13:52] At least who ever is new, please try those commands in http://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shell.html now. [13:52] kushal: ok [13:52] And type ! if you have any query. [13:52] ! [13:52] ! [13:52] ! [13:52] ! [13:53] next [13:53] last day you advise us to use gtypist that was downloaded completly but not coming in my application list what would i do ? [13:53] kvy, please wait for you turn. [13:53] kvy, also have you googled for "how to use gtypist" once? [13:53] next [13:53] next [13:53] no yet [13:54] kvy, Then please do so. [13:54] For experienced people shouldn't be http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ be a better place to start? [13:54] kvy, It is a command line application, you will have to use it inside a terminal/console. [13:54] ! [13:54] sorry i am late, connection is poor since i am travelling [13:54] I've tried learning bash before(about 2-3 times) everytime, I forget how to write bash scripts. I don't use them in my daily life. what can be a good usecase? [13:54] arush, if you know basics, then yes. [13:54] shivamA1, no problem. [13:54] ! [13:54] kushal : ok thanks [13:55] ! [13:55] geekabhi007, knowing the basics is good to start, later we will start how can we use python to do similar things. [13:55] But you will bash in most servers. [13:55] next [13:55] Can we use zsh for the sessions? [13:56] ! [13:56] ! [13:56] ! [13:56] RJ722, if you know how to use it, why not? [13:56] next [13:56] how do we execute .sh files in linux ? [13:56] ok [13:56] RJ722, yes you can do all the things in zsh which you can do in bash [13:56] deepika, That is answered in the bash guide link I provided above. [13:56] next [13:56] Do we have to read the bash guide cover to cover ? [13:56] deepika, write "bash filenam.sh" [13:57] Zams, Nope, read it with the pace or way you like. [13:57] next [13:57] sir today is my first day so where i get previous logs [13:57] Does shell commands are same as bash commands..How to differentiate these two..? [13:57] joyhimanshu, https://dgplug.org/irclogs/2017/ [13:57] joyhimanshu, also do not call anyone sir on internet [13:57] next [13:57] Does shell commands are same as bash commands..How to differentiate these two..? [13:57] kvy, After you have downloaded the gtypists. You can find install guide in "INSTALL" file in the folder [13:57] sure Kushal [13:58] vishami3, Bash is a type of shell (think like this for now). [13:58] next [13:58] What is the main difference between various shells like zsh, bash etc? Why do people use different shells? [13:58] ! [13:58] ashwanig, the same reason people use different cars. [13:58] kushal: ok [13:58] ashwanig, personal choice based on feature, documentation, familiarity etc [13:58] next [13:58] How to decide which shell to use based on requirements? [13:58] ahole[m], start with bash. [13:58] ! [13:59] It there almost everywhere. [13:59] next [13:59] what is zsh [13:59] can anyone please resend the bash guide link. [13:59] shivamA1, http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/Bash-Beginners-Guide.pdf [13:59] deepika, there are two ways through which you can do that. A. By `bash filename.sh` B. Include "#!/bin/env bash" or "#!/bin/bash" in your script as the first line, make your script executable by "sudo chmod +x filename.sh" and execute it ./filename.sh [13:59] thank you prashaant [13:59] shivamA1, http://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shell.html [13:59] arush, you don't have to explain it in full now. [13:59] bhavin192 thanks [13:59] nisha__, It is another kind of shell. [14:00] nisha__, a shell program. Z Shell. [14:00] nisha__, also type the same question in google, and see what happens next :) [14:00] .google what is zsh [14:00] kushal: Why Zsh is Cooler than Your Shell - SlideShare: ; What is the difference between bash and zsh ? - Quora: ; Z shell - Wikipedia: [14:00] thanks [14:00] next [14:00] I am not able to regain my previous nick [14:01] theparadoxer02_, that should be least of your concern [14:01] theoaradoxer02, Have you registered it? [14:02] stop [14:02] Yeah [14:02] next [14:02] But it is showing it is already in use [14:02] For the new folks, if you have any queries related to the shell commands, please do ask. [14:02] ! [14:03] theoaradoxer02, search for nickserv release a nick [14:03] next [14:03] And added underscore in my nick in the end [14:03] how does the tree command works? [14:03] ! [14:03]